# Can Your Speed Square Do This? New tool Alert! **URL:** \ **Category:** Hand Tools\ **Created:** [October 1, 2025, 12:22am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/can-your-speed-square-do-this-new-tool-alert/3978 "2025-10-01T00:22:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Fireball-Tool](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/fireball-tool/32/4077_2.png) [@Fireball-Tool](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Fireball-Tool)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 12:22am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/can-your-speed-square-do-this-new-tool-alert/3978/1 "2025-10-01T00:22:26Z")
Can your speed square do this? Today is a new tool birthday: the brand-new Fireball Miter squares. ![New Fireball Tool Miter Square](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/6/66dba05862fdd838421cd483a6e726fb8719b2d9.jpeg) The speed square is one of our favorite tools in the workshop. Nothing’s ever going to replace it, but it has weaknesses. Same with the framing square, We love it, but it too has its limits. So we thought, what if we could combine some of those strengths while addressing the weaknesses? That’s how the Fireball Miter Square was born. ![Speed Square](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/2/25398de56243edc5172a51df34d30d3670fff07b.jpeg) ![Framing Square](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/5/53b013fe959ea55886375400ef7fb882b3327ea0.jpeg) ![Combining The Speed Square And The Framing Square](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/5/5c5b868e591ec79f39b86f210a05e2638cc5b92f.jpeg) ![Fireball Miter Square 3 Pack](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/0/0a5b8854fd0db3cb0779129adeb07e9fa9ef845f.jpeg) This tool isn’t here to take the place of your other squares, it’s simply another option that does something special. We call it the Fireball Miter Square for a reason: it was really designed for layout on tubing. ![Metal Tube For Layouts](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/a/adbd7c0bb1dc9a80a41dc0870d49cf9bd44ea255.jpeg) We’ve made them out of stainless steel to keep costs down, and they come in a 3-pack set for $32. ![Fireball Miter Squares 3 Pack For $32](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/9/92a7d1cc0ba6ceb46906d711d6990acd18b9bfd6.jpeg) Fireball Miter Square vs Speed Square ![Fireball Miter Square And Speed Square](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/7/715eabe891617e7788d6571a218873875b645091.jpeg) If you look at them side by side, the difference jumps out. The speed square’s hook is located on one of the 90° legs, leaving the hypotenuse open. On the Fireball Miter Square, the hook moves to the hypotenuse. It’s larger, and it’s only on one side. So in a sense, the Fireball Miter Square is like the speed square and framing square combined, with a long leg and a big hook. ![Speed Square Has A Hook On One Of The Legs](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/a/a3198d25de71b9207f896516df39bcd416c83794.jpeg) ![Fireball Miter Square Has A Hook On The Hypotenuse](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/b/bdbca0978fd991fa9c215c730984a8c26d4676f0.jpeg) ![Fireball Miter Square Has A Bigger Hook Than The Speed Square](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/2/235e0f90335cecf353907a5483c0d51bf815a54f.jpeg) In Use: Quick Layout Here’s an example: if I want an opposite miter on tubing, I mark my length, put the Fireball Miter Square on the line, and wrap it around. Done. With a speed square, it’s a two-step process. Mark, roll, re-square. The Fireball Miter Square eliminates that. ![Marking A Line On The Tube For The Fireball Miter Square](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/f/fbecaa0b2dae134b2bbc2d850a96e7c51486d124.jpeg) ![Fireball Miter Square Matching Up Against The Line](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/6/6a440da1e8327fe7bd92f294a890fd0a49ef91be.jpeg) ![Fireball Miter Square Extending 90 Degree Line](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/c/cf13e439cb41d8bbf063b310976dd4415d3a2397.jpeg) ![Fireball Miter Square Drawing Over The Roll Of A Tube](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/3/30202ecdb3edf9f04a10d8b1864ecde107e0de9a.jpeg) ![Fireball Miter Square Drawing A Continuously To Make A 45 Degree Line](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/4/427176178b385bb9622571bb09057d6655e59b75.jpeg) ![Line Drawn For The Speed Square](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/9/9ccc295cdc388066bfaf33094d1c6c4ba91e3e81.jpeg) ![Lining Up The Speed Square To The Line](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/e/ee8b27a56512c0c89ae9f1872a08bb3a357896f5.jpeg) ![Drawing 45 degree Line Off A Single Point And Not Connected To The Line Drawn](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/e/e98f3e37169d8d3489765c589f4f10008b1dc5d2.jpeg) It also shines on large radius tubing. A speed square barely hooks the edge and throws off your dimensions. The Fireball Miter Square grabs securely, stays square, and keeps the scale accurate. ![Speed Square Barely Hooks The Edge Of The Tube](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/1/11520aabcd5e40ea659fa7decfd768c9412042e0.jpeg) ![Fireball Miter Square Hooks Securely To The Edge Of The Tube](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/a/ada9b871916eba74ae9f666938ec1d5457e229eb.jpeg) Extra Features: You can wrap perfect lines all the way around tubing. ![Conecting Lines Across The Tube WIth The Fireball Miter Square](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/a/a34af736486398ee2685a20488f74caf274c70c3.jpeg) ![Lines Connected Throughout The Tube](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/9/9e1c530ba6ec51945ef887e9190d81f5bb4a652e.jpeg) Carry straight lines across multiple faces without losing reference. ![Marking Across and Making Points From The Fireball Miter Square](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/8/8c932fd2f4a239b6335384f2b27349e92351e59f.jpeg) ![Mkaring A Straight Line Up And Down From The Fireball Miter Square](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/0/03eb4a2cd0189217643b26cb8dacf1cc3b1f308c.jpeg) ![2 Inches Marked And On The Money Thanks To The Fireball Miter Square](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/2/27d2c86c2d3e98a798a7f7aea6c9934cde643c69.jpeg) Built-in scales on both sides, like a framing square, so you can reference from either edge. ![Inside The Ruler Scale From The Fireball Miter Square](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/3/327787a587aff4d16032c1a6d2b892e6d9887b74.jpeg) ![Inside Scale Of The Fireball MIter Square From The Middle](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/6/6504f2b3ff2793b96111a142de4f96b876450b74.jpeg) Flat profile means it sits nicely on surfaces to check miter cuts and layout lines. ![Checking Your Miter Cuts With The Fireball Miter Square](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/b/baa6e48daf38f6a782a9e01ab612af58a941c682.jpeg) ![Fireball Miter Square Can Lay On Top Of Table Flat And Up Against Your Material](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/f/f704871edbabfa2bc46455a5098ccaa33aea3397.jpeg) ![Fireball Miter Square Can Help Out Draw 90 Degree Line On Top Of Table](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/a/ae7765fdf0f1b81f5fffe85cc168d9bd00b53df5.jpeg) Cutouts let you jump over welds while still staying square. ![Fireball Miter Square Able To Jump Over Welds To Check If Material Is Squared](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/c/cedf7b77da4b2bf4c18e325309b55d3892469de0.jpeg) Works for general layout too, hole locations, offsets, or even splitting a 45° into a 22.5°. ![2 1:2 Degree Line To Use On The Fireball Miter Square](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/d/d87d6928085e16facb9d86c2a3062d90e698e5a3.jpeg) ![Marking 1 Inch From The Edge From The Fireball Miter Square](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/b/bb04f6d594e971deac5cfa06395e83b74b8b9905.jpeg) ![1 Inch Away From The Edge After Making A Mark From The Fireball Miter Square #2](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/1/14b0e04af2e4fcf96fb5851e4c68ebe563e885ee.jpeg) It’s surprisingly versatile. You can even use it as a small squaring tool after welding, since it balances itself with a built-in “kickstand.” ![Fireball Miter Square Checking If Big Tube Is Squared](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/3/3596f5d2c73b7bb2b7be6f954722e82e64c0315b.jpeg) Our Final Thoughts: Between the Fireball miter squares, the speed square, the framing square, and the combination square, you now have four great layout options. Each has strengths, and the Fireball Miter Square brings something new to the table. ![Fireball Miter Square (3 Pack)](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/8/81c2e43b21ba5fb32a009f4d424b1a60a75f8f3f.jpeg) They’re available now: 3-pack for $32. I think once you try them, you’ll see how handy they are in the shop. ![FIreball Miter Square Website Page](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/0/0cb6b65db877804b6bdecaad7aa84c6bba51ef90.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Scratch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/scratch/32/2105_2.png) [@Scratch](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Scratch)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:25am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/can-your-speed-square-do-this-new-tool-alert/3978/2 "2025-10-01T02:25:22Z")
Love the innovation! I can see where they’d be a great addition to our toolbox. I’ll be adding a set to my next order. Keep the new tool ideas coming! ---
**Author:** ![Nathan\_Adams](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/nathan_adams/32/4825_2.png) [@Nathan\_Adams](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Nathan_Adams)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 5:19am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/can-your-speed-square-do-this-new-tool-alert/3978/3 "2025-10-01T05:19:23Z")
This miter square is the sole reason I have joined this group! I am quite impressed with this little tool, but I have never worked with metal in my life. I am a carpenter and this tool would be really useful for cutting 4x4 and larger timbers with a 7 1/4 inch saw (Skil saw). The problem is many timbers have square and not rounded corners. Would it be possible to make this with square’d corners for us cellulose welders? I posted the same question to YT. ---
**Author:** ![Briantology](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/briantology/32/858_2.png) [@Briantology](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Briantology)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 10:10am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/can-your-speed-square-do-this-new-tool-alert/3978/4 "2025-10-01T10:10:17Z")
Can you PLEASE make an option of these in metric? ---
**Author:** ![Caseys-Metalwork](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/caseys-metalwork/32/4847_2.png) [@Caseys-Metalwork](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Caseys-Metalwork)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 11:42pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/can-your-speed-square-do-this-new-tool-alert/3978/5 "2025-10-02T23:42:11Z")
Fingers crossed for a restock. Saw the video and was immediately sold, showed my boss and they told me to order them! I was going during my lunch to order one set for my home shop and two sets for work but it seems everyone else saw the value in these as well. Hell of an innovative approach to solving problems simply. ---
**Author:** ![jeremy11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@jeremy11](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/jeremy11)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2025, 9:33pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/can-your-speed-square-do-this-new-tool-alert/3978/6 "2025-10-07T21:33:37Z")
Hey Nathan, I’m a woodworker as well as a metalworker. Maybe they could make that sharp of a bend on one of these, but you’ve got a couple other options, 1. Take the Fireball miter squares, make a wood shim thick enough to get past the radius, and accurately trim out the slots and edges - maybe a flush trim router??? Then glue it to the rectangular side. Maybe FB could make this as an add on product? Some aluminum square tubing could use that too. 2. Woodpeckers and perhaps others make a side square that wraps layout lines far around the corner. ---
**Author:** ![jeremy11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@jeremy11](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/jeremy11)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2025, 9:54pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/can-your-speed-square-do-this-new-tool-alert/3978/7 "2025-10-07T21:54:06Z")
Jason, This a great idea and really needed when we’re working with square/rect steel tubing because of the radiused corners. Here’s an extension on the idea - sometimes we need to cut strange angles across tubing. Yes, I can use a framing square with Omni stair gauges after doing a bit of math - but sometimes a protractor or T bevel is the thing. But they suffer the same problem the squares do - the large radius makes them ineffective. Add a little hole at each end and near the middle to your miter square, countersink the inside, add a low profile screw, and a long T bevel type blade. Presto, monster T bevel. See quick Solidworks concept drawing. The square is used the “wrong way around”. ![Miter T Bevel](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/9/9406486bc8230491b54b700380aac0d9ea047a50.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Fireball\_Jason](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/fireball_jason/32/52_2.png) [@Fireball\_Jason](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Fireball_Jason)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 6:18pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/can-your-speed-square-do-this-new-tool-alert/3978/8 "2025-10-08T18:18:52Z")
Clever. I’ll have to prototype one and try it out ---
**Author:** ![McSweld](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@McSweld](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/McSweld)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/can-your-speed-square-do-this-new-tool-alert/3978/9 "2025-11-05T21:00:04Z")
Love it! But being from Australia would you please release one in metric if you haven’t already? ---
**Author:** ![Tony-b](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/db5fbb/32.png) [@Tony-b](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Tony-b)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 10:22pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/can-your-speed-square-do-this-new-tool-alert/3978/10 "2025-11-05T22:22:32Z")
Great square, I was lucky enough to order early and got a set!! Now I want 3 more sets, only hope you get enough requests to make an even bigger one!! ---
**Author:** ![Fireball\_Jason](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/fireball_jason/32/52_2.png) [@Fireball\_Jason](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Fireball_Jason)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/can-your-speed-square-do-this-new-tool-alert/3978/11 "2025-11-10T15:40:57Z")
Yes we could do a 12 or 14 if there is enough interest ---
**Author:** ![Tony-b](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/db5fbb/32.png) [@Tony-b](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Tony-b)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/can-your-speed-square-do-this-new-tool-alert/3978/12 "2025-11-10T18:58:01Z")
I hope there is!! Thank you for the reply!!