# Country of origin

**URL:** <https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156>\
**Category:** Fixture Tables\
**Created:** [January 12, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156 "2024-01-12T15:16:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![cruch9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@cruch9](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/cruch9)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156/1 "2024-01-12T15:16:41Z")

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I am assuming the heavy duty table and tooling are make over seas. Wondering what country tables are cast and tables/fixtures are machined. Would be nice they were 100% USA but I understand the pricing differences.

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**Author:** ![Fireball\_Wyatt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/fireball_wyatt/32/503_2.png) [@Fireball\_Wyatt](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Fireball_Wyatt)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 10:04pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156/2 "2024-01-13T22:04:38Z")

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We cast out tables in Taiwan but all of our tooling is manufactured in USA.

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**Author:** ![LarryFahnoe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/larryfahnoe/32/67_2.png) [@LarryFahnoe](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/LarryFahnoe)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156/3 "2024-01-13T22:47:42Z")

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Thanks for sharing where the tables are made. I’m delighted with my 60x30 “workbench” & now I know a bit more about where it came from.

It would be neat to see a video of the foundry and machining process of the tables!

–Larry

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**Author:** ![cruch9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@cruch9](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/cruch9)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156/4 "2024-01-14T00:45:19Z")

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Where are tables machined? Taiwan as well? You should do a video on the process of making the tables and tooling.

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**Author:** ![Fireball\_Wyatt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/fireball_wyatt/32/503_2.png) [@Fireball\_Wyatt](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Fireball_Wyatt)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156/5 "2024-01-14T01:11:04Z")

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They are machined and QCed in Taiwan then we QC them again here in the States. There is a video on the channel that shows our facility here in the USA where we machine our squares and table tooling. Then if you look around instagram and the forum I think you can find some footage of the made in USA hardtails being machined.

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**Author:** ![Whitesteel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/whitesteel/32/1461_2.png) [@Whitesteel](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Whitesteel)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156/6 "2024-01-14T01:51:49Z")

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[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/fireball/original/2X/1/159118a5a33083739c3de23b38d65c110cc96f8b.jpeg "How Do Welding Squares Get Made? Fireball Tool") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdFVIEM5KBo)

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**Author:** ![cruch9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@cruch9](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/cruch9)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156/7 "2024-01-14T19:48:06Z")

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Thank you for the info! Greatly appreciated.

One other thing I was wondering about was the pallets you ship them on. I watched a YouTube video of a guy un crating a table and the pallet it came on was absolutely destroyed. Are you shipping them on better pallets now?

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**Author:** ![Knick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Knick](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Knick)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156/8 "2024-01-14T21:16:49Z")

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Thank you for posting that very cool!

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**Author:** ![Mnwelder](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/mnwelder/32/5308_2.png) [@Mnwelder](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Mnwelder)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156/9 "2024-01-14T21:53:50Z")

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They are not, mine came in the same flimsy plywood box with no blocking under it, just sitting flat on the bed of the truck.

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**Author:** ![cruch9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@cruch9](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/cruch9)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 11:42pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156/10 "2024-01-14T23:42:58Z")

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for what they cost they could atleast put some 4x4 under it the dont fold over.

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**Author:** ![Cascade\_Steel\_Design](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@Cascade\_Steel\_Design](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Cascade_Steel_Design)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156/11 "2024-01-16T00:56:53Z")

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I was also not impressed with the packaging of my 4.5x8.5 table i received on friday. The plywood was tore up on one end where they shoved it with a forklift. Once i got it unpackaged i noticed they did scar it up a bit when they did that. Frustrating considering the price of the shipping. Dont get me wrong im a huge fireball fan and tell anyone that will listen to me about your products. Im sure it was the carrier that scarred up my table. Love my table though.

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**Author:** ![mRhAnKbOt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/mrhankbot/32/1438_2.png) [@mRhAnKbOt](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/mRhAnKbOt)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156/12 "2024-01-16T01:09:51Z")

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That’s a bummer. And criminally in my experience LTL shippers usually won’t let you open a crate and inspect it before rejecting a shipment for damage, and you can’t take the undamaged parts of it and reject the rest, in general it all has to go back.

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**Author:** ![Cascade\_Steel\_Design](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@Cascade\_Steel\_Design](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Cascade_Steel_Design)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156/13 "2024-01-16T01:24:58Z")

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Right. I spoke with the carrier today and they wanted to return the table… i was like meh. Its not worth all that.

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**Author:** ![mRhAnKbOt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/mrhankbot/32/1438_2.png) [@mRhAnKbOt](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/mRhAnKbOt)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156/14 "2024-01-16T01:29:25Z")

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**Author:** ![cruch9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@cruch9](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/cruch9)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/country-of-origin/2156/15 "2024-01-16T14:06:56Z")

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They could construct a real pallet and set the crappy pallet on top for not much more money. Id gladly pay a extra 100 or so for something that protects the table better.
