# The new Dragon Wagon
**URL:** https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323
**Category:** Fixture Tables
**Created:** [September 18, 2023, 5:52am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323 "2023-09-18T05:52:49Z")
**Posts on this page:** 19
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### Author:  [@DanM82](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/DanM82)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2023, 5:52am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/1 "2023-09-18T05:52:49Z")
Hi Jason, it was really nice to meet you at Fab-Tech and talk in person about what your making! I did order the larger Dragon table. I didn’t think to ask you there, all the larger fixturing will work on it but I’m curious about the locking pins. If they will work on a thinner table the way their supposed to? If this is posted somewhere else in here forgive me, first time poster.
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### Author:  [@Fireball\_Jason](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Fireball_Jason)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2023, 12:52pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/2 "2023-09-18T12:52:55Z")
Great question! All the tacking bolts are the same size so they can be used on any table. The Dragon wagon tack bolts use a collar that space the bolt up so it can lock. I’ll do a video on it soon.
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### Author:  [@Stuarts\_Shed](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Stuarts_Shed)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2023, 10:23am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/3 "2023-09-19T10:23:45Z")
Is the 60 X 30 table gone from the product offerings now? Just wondered.
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### Author:  [@Fireball\_Jason](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Fireball_Jason)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2023, 12:44pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/4 "2023-09-19T12:44:13Z")
Yes but it’s coming back as a 54”x30. This size matches the width of the larger tables. It should be ready sometime in November
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### Author:  [@Sam](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Sam)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/5 "2023-09-19T17:59:15Z")
I am happy to see you are filling such a need. Finding T55804 for my 5/8" LS table took me a while.
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### Author:  [@Arcwarrior](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Arcwarrior)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/6 "2023-09-19T21:11:34Z")
Since I’m looking to get this new table, I’m wondering, do I have to buy new fence blocks to work with 3/4 holes? Are can I just swap the threaded pins to 3/4 ones? I currently have the 5/8 fence blocks.
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### Author:  [@Fireball\_Jason](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Fireball_Jason)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/7 "2023-09-19T23:16:37Z")
Unfortunately no the threads are different size
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### Author:  [@Fireball\_Eli](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Fireball_Eli)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2023, 4:49am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/8 "2023-09-20T04:49:52Z")
@Arcwarrior you could in theory swap out the threaded pins and it would work, but we don’t make that style pin.
If you did have the pin, the main drawback is you could not stack the blocks or put a clamp into one of them (handy for clamping something taller)
I’ll send you a DM, we might be able to do something else for you
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### Author:  [@Michael\_motorcycle](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Michael_motorcycle)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2023, 4:01am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/9 "2023-11-14T04:01:54Z")
I just placed my order for 2 of the 24x36 dragon wagons. They were exactly what I’ve been waiting for before pulling the trigger on a Fab table system for my home shop. I’ve been slowly purchasing fireball squares for a few years now.
And now that my 2600 sqft dream shop behind my house is nearly ready to actually start ‘working in’ and not just ‘working on’ I figured it was time to make the purchase of theses tables.
Cannot wait to get them.
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### Author:  [@DanM82](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/DanM82)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2023, 4:14am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/10 "2023-11-14T04:14:08Z")
I know the feeling. Ive been patiently waiting since I put dibs on one at Fab-Tech. Been collecting fixtures and clamps randomly, too bad the sale this month isnt for fixtures as well. I could tell the wife, look…I had to buy all these, they were on sale!
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### Author:  [@Michael\_motorcycle](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Michael_motorcycle)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2023, 4:55am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/11 "2023-11-14T04:55:59Z")
I have no wife. If I did I’m sure the big shop I built would be a swimming pool or some other backyard project or luxurious vacation instead.
I’m just a hobbyist so these tables might be overkill but I plan on building some frames for at least 2 of my old project cars.
Eventually I’d like to start a small fabrication business so I figured buy once cry once. After all it’s only money 😂.
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### Author:  [@Michael\_motorcycle](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Michael_motorcycle)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2023, 4:59am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/12 "2023-11-14T04:59:10Z")
FYI they are now listed on the website with an estimated ship date of early December if you haven’t already placed an order. I did the ‘notify me’ thing and just randomly noticed they were now listed for sale.
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### Author:  [@DanM82](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/DanM82)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2023, 12:08pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/13 "2023-11-14T12:08:50Z")
Oh, the second I seen that , order went in. Same here having a hobby shop doing light machine/fab work, hard to justify the want of having a super nice $12k table on the hobby fundage. At least the wife hasnt complained once in 13 years of what I spend in the shop. And the second vacation in 10 years, I took her up to Fab-Tech 😂 Only complaints there was how many times we would walk past the same places to hear me say… oooo, I want that…awww that would be nice!! lol
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### Author:  [@Arcwarrior](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Arcwarrior)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2023, 10:32pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/14 "2023-11-15T22:32:13Z")
I’m curious how delivery is for a table like the bigger dragon wagon. Never ordered that big or heavy online. Would the delivery driver bring the table into a garage? Anyone able to shed some light on this?
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### Author:  [@Fireball\_Wyatt](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Fireball_Wyatt)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2023, 11:24pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/15 "2023-11-15T23:24:52Z")
We do offer lift gate service as a delivery option. The shipping company will offload the product with a pallet jack and can set the product wherever they can access.
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### Author:  [@Arcwarrior](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Arcwarrior)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2023, 11:33pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/16 "2023-11-15T23:33:59Z")
The only option I see is LTL, is that the lift gate service?
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### Author:  [@Fireball\_Eli](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Fireball_Eli)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2023, 5:53am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/17 "2023-11-16T05:53:04Z")
> [@Arcwarrior](#):
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> Would the delivery driver bring the table into a garage?
The tables come crated, a couple inches larger than the product dimensions. We can offer liftgate service for an extra fee.
If you email customer service [contact@fireballtool.com](mailto:contact@fireballtool.com) they can help you set it up, or just order and then email about your order.
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### Author:  [@Tony-b](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Tony-b)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2025, 1:24pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/18 "2025-01-21T13:24:48Z")
Idk if im posting this where i should but here goes! Jason i bought the dragon wagon 30x54 due to trying to work in a very small shop, the slag tray is great, im thinking a heavier slide out shelf just under the slag tray would be a great thing for keeping all your fixtures on!! Any good/bad thoughts on that??
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### Author:  [@Fireball\_Jason](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Fireball_Jason)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2025, 2:08pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/the-new-dragon-wagon/1323/19 "2025-01-21T14:08:15Z")
Nothing wrong with that. It would have to be really heavy duty with some serious hardware that would take the weight and roll out smoothly. Anything is possible.