# ToothBlock Kit with 1/4" thick fixture table

**URL:** <https://fireball.discourse.group/t/toothblock-kit-with-1-4-thick-fixture-table/2326>\
**Category:** Fixture Tables\
**Created:** [February 2, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/toothblock-kit-with-1-4-thick-fixture-table/2326 "2024-02-02T02:01:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Steven\_McIntosh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/steven_mcintosh/32/1421_2.png) [@Steven\_McIntosh](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Steven_McIntosh)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/toothblock-kit-with-1-4-thick-fixture-table/2326/1 "2024-02-02T02:01:39Z")

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I have a fixture table with 16mm holes on 2" centers from another manufacturer and my top is only 1/4" thick. Is it possible to use the ToothBlock Kit with this table. I don’t think the Tacking Bolts that you use with that fixture will work on my table top that is only 1/4. Is that correct? Is there another way I can still make that ToothBlock fixture work with my table?

Thanks  
-Steve

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**Author:** ![Fireball\_Eli](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/fireball_eli/32/42_2.png) [@Fireball\_Eli](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Fireball_Eli)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 5:14am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/toothblock-kit-with-1-4-thick-fixture-table/2326/2 "2024-02-02T05:14:56Z")

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it would work, you would need to use a bunch of spacers or washers to take up the slack in the extra space in the bolts

the holes on the 1/4" tables typically don’t have a chamfer on the back side, but it still generally works with the bolts

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**Author:** ![sportster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@sportster](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/sportster)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/toothblock-kit-with-1-4-thick-fixture-table/2326/3 "2024-02-14T13:39:33Z")

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I too have a 16mm table on 2" centers… which is 1/4" thick. (from CertiFlat)

re: the ~3/4" spacers I need to fabricate to be used with the Toothblock Kit.

Is it practical for the ~3/4" spacers be used “top side” on the table ? Or just “underside” of table, or both ?

Just trying to understand what makes sense, should I go down this path. Thx.

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**Author:** ![Fireball\_Jason](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/fireball_jason/32/52_2.png) [@Fireball\_Jason](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Fireball_Jason)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/toothblock-kit-with-1-4-thick-fixture-table/2326/4 "2024-02-14T13:53:44Z")

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Yes you can use your 1/4 table top with the correct spacer. It’s preferred to put the spacer on the top next to the head of the tack bolt.

> **[Tacking Bolt Spacer - 3/4" Diameter](https://fireballtool.com/products/dragon-spacer?_pos=1&_psq=Spacer&_ss=e&_v=1.0)**
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> These spacers are designed when you have table system with 3/4" diameter holes, but the thickness of the table is less than 1". Tacking bolts are designed to clamp 1" thick fireball blocks + 1" thick tables. Thinner tables will require a spacer for...

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**Author:** ![Fireball\_Eli](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/fireball_eli/32/42_2.png) [@Fireball\_Eli](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/Fireball_Eli)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/toothblock-kit-with-1-4-thick-fixture-table/2326/5 "2024-02-19T19:32:15Z")

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> [@Fireball\_Jason](#):
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> Yes you can use your 1/4 table top with the correct spacer. It’s preferred to put the spacer on the top next to the head of the tack bolt.

Those spacers are only for the Fireball 3/4" system, if you’re using another system you’ll have to use some washers that fit 5/8 or 16mm bolts

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**Author:** ![HenrysWorkshop](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/henrysworkshop/32/1763_2.png) [@HenrysWorkshop](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/HenrysWorkshop)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/toothblock-kit-with-1-4-thick-fixture-table/2326/6 "2024-02-22T01:25:29Z")

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I think the good news is that you can still use the toothblock kit. I did a dumb thing when I got mine and didn’t buy the tacking bolts, but I was still able to use the blocks and washers. This isn’t the best idea, but it worked for me: while I was waiting for the order for tacking bolts to come in, I used some 5/8-11 bolts through the table and just tightened a nut onto the underside.

Those tacking bolts are really awesome, though. They’re totally worth having even if you have to weld a washer to them to make it a little more convenient.

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**Author:** ![charliecrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@charliecrew](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/charliecrew)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/toothblock-kit-with-1-4-thick-fixture-table/2326/7 "2024-05-10T19:32:23Z")

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I just received my tooth blocks and tacking bolts, found that on my table [3/8 thick] that at least one hole is too thin so I will get some washers to use all the time. It took only 3 days from order to receiving my order keep up your good work.

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**Author:** ![HenrysWorkshop](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/henrysworkshop/32/1763_2.png) [@HenrysWorkshop](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/HenrysWorkshop)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/toothblock-kit-with-1-4-thick-fixture-table/2326/8 "2024-05-11T16:10:16Z")

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That’s really strange. I’ve got a 3/8" thick table and the tacking bolts work just fine on the tooth blocks. Are you using them with something else?

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**Author:** ![charliecrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@charliecrew](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/charliecrew)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/toothblock-kit-with-1-4-thick-fixture-table/2326/9 "2024-05-11T18:07:38Z")

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The table is cast and not finished on the bottom. It was only the one hole when I was checking the fit, not a real issue. It could be only the one hole on a 2 foot by 6 foot table, I will not try to check all the holes just use the washers.

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**Author:** ![HenrysWorkshop](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/fireball.discourse.group/henrysworkshop/32/1763_2.png) [@HenrysWorkshop](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/HenrysWorkshop)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/toothblock-kit-with-1-4-thick-fixture-table/2326/10 "2024-05-11T20:48:56Z")

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Sounds like it’s not actually 3/8" thick. You might even consider getting it exchanged if it’s new and supposedly 3/8"

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**Author:** ![charliecrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@charliecrew](https://fireball.discourse.group/u/charliecrew)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://fireball.discourse.group/t/toothblock-kit-with-1-4-thick-fixture-table/2326/11 "2024-05-12T00:07:17Z")

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One or two thounths is not something I am going to quibble about/
