so i had to come here to say, you guys have built an absolutely amazing vise. im very impressed, and for an absolutely astonishing price compared to the competition. congrats one of the best vices ever built. its beautiful, if only i had the need for one, i still really want one anyway. i just cannot afford to drop 1800 on this masterpiece
@AngryScottishMechani, Half the hand tools in my shop double as a hammerā¦
Very impactful video.
That testing was brutal!! Glad to see how well your vice performed through all that abuse!! Disappointed me that the other brands charging more money for a vice arent even trying to make them better. The fireball vice looks amazing for the price. I wish I had the room but I only have a half a garage to work in. I cant wait to see if in a few years fireball tool comes out with a smaller vice for home shops. My oldschool craftsman is cast iron and breaks where the swivel bolt tightens. Im constantly fixing it. Last time the bolt head came clean off revealing that the swivel bolt was cast iron! I dont use it to much but i sure wish i could rely on a vice like a fire ball tool vice. Keep up the great work on all the videos!! One more thing to note the videos on the fireball tool website have trouble loading on mobile versions of the website I dont think it was my phone, its only a year old but it could be. The office build was awesome btw!!
Hi man, I like your videos and appreciate them and I came here to tell you that disabling comments on YouTube feels wrong and I donāt think will help in growing your channel. Thanks again and cheers.
Iāve got a Columbian vise that opens up to 13 1/2 inches. Itās a tough vise for what Iāve been doing for many years. I can see the weak points on my vise now that youāve pointed them out. I must say that this video was a very impressive video that has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have engineered a far superior piece of equipment. Some of the obvious flaws of the other vises have been thought through and redesigned by you to make yours one of those products where the other manufacturers who watch this video are slapping their forehead and saying, why didnāt we address this problem like this young man has. Iāll be turning 70 years old soon and my Columbian vise will see me through to my last days. If I were a younger man, I would be buying one of your vises today. If for no other reason than to say, Yah, I bought this one back when they were only $1800.00. I know you got to get your product out on the market and by selling them for a very reasonable cost will do that Once you create the demand that is coming youāll be selling them for much more as they are clearly worth much more.
Iām confused by the shaft and collar test. I thought the purpose of the test was to see if the hammer could drive the shaft down and out of the collar.
You welded the collar to the shaft but the shaft was recessed into the collar. Your test hammer hit the collar, never touching the shaft.
The Test is to see how the jaws hold up to downward force. The race and shaft is a typical scenario that downwards forces might be applied. The sleeve needs to be stuck to simulate all the load transferring into the jaws.
As someone who doesnāt do metal work at all but has broken several bottom barrel small vices itās nice to learn and understand common issues with them.
That being said itās frankly disgusting that these companies have been building some thing for 75 years with all of these fatal flaws and havenāt even made an attempt to rectify them. Hopefully this will put a little pep in their step.
@DaddyVet Yes the thing that surprised me the most is the cheesy small fasteners that hold the jaws on.
Soā¦ummā¦whats the return policy on the other 2 vices? Surely there is a default return policy right? Id be curious to see their reaction when you send it back saying it failed.
Biggest surprise was how fast the Morgan vice broke when you were hitting it with the hammer!
Iām not surprised, I had a great opinion on Winton vise being i grew up and that was āThe viseā to buy if you depend on one. In 1999 I saved up for one ordered it, got it in mounted on my work bench. First use of it it failed due to s###y casting. What I was doing was flatten copper tubing to make welding lugs for leads. Company wouldnāt warranty it, no return. Then I bought a H.F. model not even 1/5 the price. Itās been abused thoroughly without failure. Maybe my cutting off metal with torch annealed to survive the beating itās sustained. My ābeater viseā I bought from a mobile low buck tool sales, I flogged it from day one. It failed at screw finally crushing some thing. The 6in that i had for use in 2 in receiver got stolen so unknown on it. It was replaced with another H.F. vise.
If I was needing a high quality one that I could depend on I would be buying a Fireball. Otherwise I would rather have a H.F. vise over a Winton vise
I know a lot of people get it the wrong way round but I couldnāt believe it actually said foot-pounds on your torque wrench.
Foot-pounds is a unit of work.
Pound-feet is a unit of torque.
Torque is a rotational force whereas work is a product of force and distance travelled.
Your vice (sorry Iām British) is awesome by the way, you should be selling them.
Oh wait you are.
arent you afraid of the carbide in the bit when striking down on the metal it could chip off and hurt you see it happen been running hammer bits a good while
If harbor freight were to offer you $20,000,000 plus $20 royalty per pice sold for the rights to be the exclusive producer and seller of these, would you? You not being able to sell vises anymore unless working exclusively together with harbor freight.
@Luke_Johnson No probably not.
Just joining the chat now
Havenāt even gotten the chance to watch the video besides the first minute or two
Regardless tho, just wanted to say that I have the Wilton 800
When did the stop manufacturing it??
Incredible video, incredible vice. Well done. Thank you for destroying those vices for our viewing pleasure and really well done on your design. You destroyed those other 75 years experienced manufacturers with your design.
I calculated the energy of the hammer, and at 75 Lbs, it has a force of 2256.477 Ft/pounds, or 3 kilojoules, or about the same as your average .308