I Tested the Strongest and Most Durable Welding Table

Hey everyone,

I just made a video where I purchased a Siegmund Table recently and found that their website says “The Strongest, Most Durable Welding Tables Ever Made.” And it got me thinking…is there such thing as the strongest table? What does it take to consider something to be the most durable? Did somebody award this to them?

This claim is on top of a video of them dropping a car on their table, and I couldn’t believe that this is the only thing that makes it the strongest and most durable.
So I put it to the test, and my own Dragon Wagon to compare and see if Siegmund’s claim holds up. Over the course of a series of rigorous tests, I was able to compare the two tables in four key areas: weld spatter durability, overload strength, sidewall strength, and leg attachment robustness. Let’s break down each test and see how the tables fared.

Test 1: Weld Spatter Durability

First up, I wanted to see how the surfaces of both tables handled weld spatter. Anyone who has welded for a while knows how messy it can get, and how some tables suffer from damage after a few poor welds. To simulate this, I did a bit of deliberate bad welding right above both tables, creating plenty of spatter. The goal was to see how each table’s surface reacted to the spatter and if they could clean up without significant damage.

Results:

  • Fireball Dragon Wagon: The surface was able to handle the spatter with minimal damage. It’s easy to wipe off, and any marks left behind weren’t too severe, plus the marks were spread fairly thin. But these marks didn’t change the surface itegrity of the table, they were only cosmetic.
  • Siegmund Table: The surface more or less performed the same, but had more noticeable cosmetic marks, and the cleanup was little a bit more difficult. I noticed the spatter gathered closer in clusters, rather than spreading out, just something interesting.



Test 2: Overload Strength

The second test focused on seeing how much load both tables could withstand and how they responded to pressure. To do this, I applied a centrally distributed load by pushing against the middle of each table and measuring how much deflection occurred. Then I wanted to see if either table could return to its original flatness after the load was released.

Results:

  • Fireball Dragon Wagon: The Fireball table quite well. There was some deflection under load, but the table quickly returned to its original flatness once the pressure was released. The design held up well and only shifted .025" with a couple tons of force applied to it.
  • Siegmund Table: The Siegmund table also performed well under load, shifting only .025" under a couple tons of load. And both of these tables went back to their original flatness.

Test 3: Sidewall Strength

Next up was the sidewall strength test. This test was designed to see how the sidewalls of the tables could handle pulling forces. Both tables had their tops chained together and were pulled from the edges to see how much they would bend and if they could return to their flat state afterward. However, there was a hiccup in this test: the Siegmund table’s welding tacks popped during the pull, and the test was halted before I could apply a full load. So, this test ended prematurely for the Siegmund, but here’s how the Fireball performed:

Results:

  • Fireball Dragon Wagon: The Fireball’s sidewalls performed excellent under the pull, with minimal deflection and no signs of damage. Before the Siegmund popped, the Dragon Wagon was outperforming its deflection 2 to 1. Even after being pulled significantly, the sidewalls kept their shape and returned to original flatness once I released the load.


Test 4: Leg Attachment Strength

The final test focused on the connection between the legs and the table surface. For this, I chained the legs together and gradually applied increasing pressure to see how much they could take before the connection failed. Then, I switched out the legs and hit them with my 100-pound hammer to see how they handled sudden impacts, simulating running into a divot in a floor, or falling down a stair-step.



Results:

  • Fireball Dragon Wagon: The Fireball table’s leg connection system was robust. Even under increasing pressure, the bolts held firm, and the legs remained solidly in place. Then when I hit the leg with the hammer, it took a couple blows before the failure was at the bolt connection- replaceable parts. There was a bit of deformation at the contact points, but nothing that compromised the integrity of the table. The design really impressed me here, showing how replaceable parts can make it easier to maintain the table in the long run.
  • Siegmund Table: The Siegmund’s leg connections were more problematic. Under increasing pressure, the connection points began to distort more easily, bending the hardened steel (this test the Siegmund failed compared to the Dragon Wagon leg attachment). Then when I applied the hammer impact, the legs failed in the same spot, bending the hardened steel. It just surprised me that the point of failure was within the table, and not the leg itself.

Final Thoughts:

After conducting all four tests, it’s clear that Siegmund’s claims of having the strongest and most durable welding table, is simply not true. There are way too many categories to have to be the best in to claim that. I don’t think any table could make those claims, honestly.

I was genuinely surprised by how the Siegmund table failed in some of these tests, especially the leg attachment and sidewall strength tests. It’s definitely a solid table, but it didn’t outperform the Dragon Wagon in the areas that matter most for real-world durability.

What do you all think? Have any of you tested the Siegmund table? Let’s talk about it!

Jason

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For the sake of fairness you should also test other tables on the market in the same price range.

@StranjBikes Do you have a recommendation?

This one would be fun to watch!
(For a few seconds, Lol)

What do you want tested on it?

What grade are the bolts for mounting the legs on the dragon wagon? I wonder if it’s better or worse to have a lower grade just to give it a cheap to replace failure point.

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A Fixture War would be interesting. Test the various tables with their fixtures against Fireball. After watching Fireball channel for years I think we all know what the outcome will be, but interesting none the less to see failure points.

Any table in the 3000-3500 price category. Even a comparison between your new build it your self tables and a rhino cart

Biased results.
Test 2 Your Dragon table remained dished .010" afterward, (the spec that you claimed to be most important in the test) other table you said returned to its original slightly crowned flatness. Then you called it a draw. I couldn’t bear to watch beyond that.

The spatter test, you welded closer to the table on the competition. Didnt have a timer setup to show your feed rate. You decided to vote your table the winner despite having the same texture by feel.

It seems like all of your tests are biased garbage.

You have to remember. The placement of the hydraulic jack was lower by 4in on the dragon wagon. The Dragon Wagon is also longer. The siegmund table had the jack placed perfectly center of the table, right on the ribbing. When the dragon wagon gets measured it gets a handicap due to its longer length. As shown in this diagram. I would also state that the siegmund table is not flat to start with so that’s a problem all the time. In my mind it should get a penalty for not being very flat to start with.

I think we should talk about the tacks popping on the Siegmund tables ribbing. If it truly was better at holding the pressure why did the tacks pop in the next test. I believe they were damaged in the push test but didn’t reveal its self until later.

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I have watched the entire test video twice. While all the test were well conducted, represented the strengths and weaknesses of each table design, and showed the failure points, some of the test don’t seem realistic to what can happen in a fabrication shop.

My thought is real world testing is the only way to show how durable each of these tables really is. A true fabrication shop where each table would be tested to everyday use and abuse. Dragging material, dropping material, hammering, sliding metal across the table, just the daily use of a table when fabricating parts. Day after day use. How does the table hold up after 3 months, 6 months, or 12 months of use?

One thing to note about the siegmund table is the caster wheel itself. It looks to be solid urethane of some sort. The Fireball caster wheel is two parts, basically a red tire on a grey rim. In my experience a two piece caster wheel will eventually deuterate and the outer tire layer will separate from the inner rim piece. Maybe the Fireball caster wheels are better than the ones I’ve had experience with.

Disclaimer: I don’t own a fixture table, yet.

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